The Article “Pīnyīn is a Good, Workable Writing System On Its Own” Has Been Revised

The recent revisions to the article “Pīnyīn is a Good, Workable Writing System On Its Own” have been revised, to emphasize that Pīnyīn helps Mandarin-learners to take advantage of the familiarity of the Latin alphabet, with no downside necessary:

What about the claim by some English-speaking Mandarin-learners that using Pīnyīn causes their Mandarin to sound like English? This can indeed happen if they let the Latin letters of Pīnyīn make them think of English sounds instead of the Mandarin sounds that they actually represent. In such cases, the problem is not with the Latin alphabet letters used by Pīnyīn—the Latin alphabet is used successfully to write many languages besides English, including French, Spanish, Vietnamese, etc., and it is just as capable of being used successfully to write Mandarin. As English-speaking Mandarin-learners get more familiar with the sounds of correct Mandarin speech, they can come to get used to correctly mentally connecting Pīnyīn to correct Mandarin sounds, rather than to English sounds. Then, they can regularly and reliably use Pīnyīn to help them speak Mandarin-sounding Mandarin, just like people regularly and reliably use written French to help them speak French-sounding French.

So, the key to speaking Mandarin-sounding Mandarin is to mentally get familiar with the sounds of correct Mandarin speech, e.g., by hearing the sounds of correct Mandarin speech a lot, by learning how to use the mouth, tongue, etc. to make Mandarin speech sounds correctly, and by practising making Mandarin speech sounds correctly. Turning to Chinese characters and avoiding the Latin letters of Pīnyīn is not the only or best way to go—if you are not familiar with the sounds of correct Mandarin speech, then your spoken Mandarin is still going to sound off, even if you stick with Chinese characters.

So, Pīnyīn is not necessarily less effective than the hard-to-learn-and-remember characters are at helping people to speak Mandarin-sounding Mandarin. In fact, once people mentally get familiar with the sounds of correct Mandarin speech and get used to connecting those sounds to the familiar Latin alphabet letters of Pīnyīn, Pīnyīn then allows them to leverage or take advantage of their familiarity with the Latin alphabet, such that that familiarity enables them to more easily and more confidently speak Mandarin that is more precisely correct. E.g., with Pīnyīn, no more does anyone need to be uncertain about how in the world “增加” is pronounced, or about whether it starts with a “z” sound or a “zh” sound—the Pīnyīn (“zēngjiā”) uses familiar Latin alphabet letters to literally spell out the correct Mandarin pronunciation so that it is clear and obvious!

The Article “Pīnyīn is a Good, Workable Writing System On Its Own” Has Been Revised

The article “Pīnyīn is a Good, Workable Writing System On Its Own” has been revised, with the addition of these two paragraphs addressing the issue of whether Pīnyīn unavoidably causes English-speaking Mandarin-learners’ Mandarin to sound like English:

What about the claim by some English-speaking Mandarin-learners that using Pīnyīn causes their Mandarin to sound like English? This can indeed happen if they let the Latin letters of Pīnyīn make them think of English sounds instead of the Mandarin sounds that they actually represent. In such cases, the problem is not with the Latin alphabet letters used by Pīnyīn—the Latin alphabet is used successfully to write many languages besides English, including French, Spanish, Vietnamese, etc., and it is just as capable of being used successfully to write Mandarin. As English-speaking Mandarin-learners get more familiar with the sounds of correct Mandarin speech, they can come to get used to correctly mentally connecting Pīnyīn to correct Mandarin sounds, rather than to English sounds. Then, they can regularly and reliably use Pīnyīn to help them speak Mandarin-sounding Mandarin, just like people regularly and reliably use written French to help them speak French-sounding French.

So, the key to speaking Mandarin-sounding Mandarin is to mentally get familiar with the sounds of correct Mandarin speech, e.g., by hearing the sounds of correct Mandarin speech a lot, by learning how to use the mouth, tongue, etc. to make Mandarin speech sounds correctly, and by practising making Mandarin speech sounds correctly. Turning to Chinese characters and avoiding the Latin letters of Pīnyīn is not the only or best way to go—if you are not familiar with the sounds of correct Mandarin speech, then your spoken Mandarin is still going to sound off, even if you stick with Chinese characters. In fact, rather than being less effective than the hard-to-learn-and-remember characters are at helping people speak Mandarin-sounding Mandarin, once people mentally work out the connections between Pīnyīn and Mandarin speech sounds, Pīnyīn can help them to more easily and more confidently speak Mandarin that is more precisely correct. E.g., with Pīnyīn, no more does anyone need to be uncertain about how in the world “增加” is pronounced, or about whether it starts with a “z” sound or a “zh” sound—the Pīnyīn (“zēngjiā”) makes the correct Mandarin pronunciation clear and obvious!

Also, scripture links have been revised to point to the latest 2018 version of the New World Translation on the WOL.

The Pīnyīn, etc. Articles Have Been Revised and Restyled

The articles I have written about Pīnyīn, characters, Mandarin speech, etc. have been revised, and their styling has been harmonized and improved so that they will render better on mobile devices:

• SPEECH is Top Priority, Not Characters
  This short article boils down what our top priority should be when it comes to learning Mandarin for the Mandarin field, and why, according to Jehovah’s organization and his Word. (Logging in to 3lines.org is required to access this article.)
• Pīnyīn is a Good, Workable Writing System On Its Own
  This article is a brief overview of why it’s important for those of us in the Mandarin field to recognize that Pīnyīn is a full writing system, not just a pronunciation aid. (Logging in to 3lines.org is required to access this article.)
• Pīnyīn Was Plan A
  This extensively researched in-depth article discusses how we in the Mandarin field should view Pīnyīn. (Logging in to 3lines.org is required to access this article.)
• Short Links:
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The Article “Pīnyīn is a Good, Workable Writing System On Its Own” Has Been Revised

The article “Pīnyīn is a Good, Workable Writing System On Its Own”, available to be read on 3lines.org, has been revised. Its contents were taken from the Introductions of recent Pīnyīn web resources, and it should serve as a brief overview of why it’s important for those of us in the Mandarin field to recognize that Pīnyīn is a full writing system, not just a pronunciation aid. (The article “Pīnyīn Was Plan A” provides a more in-depth discussion of how we in the Mandarin field should view Pīnyīn.)

Here is a link to the newly posted article:

• “Pīnyīn is a Good, Workable Writing System On Its Own”
  
  (The login information required is the same as for anywhere else on 3lines.org. If you’re already on the 3lines.org site, you can find this article in the folder Misc ▶ Articles.)

The subject of Pīnyīn and the Chinese characters may be one of the most important subjects I have ever written about, since it deals with facing the most difficult fundamental aspect of the Mandarin language, the language that is the very reason that the Mandarin field exists. This article is a distillation of months of research and analysis regarding this subject, and of decades of experience in learning and teaching Mandarin in the Mandarin field. I highly recommend that anyone in or interested in the Mandarin field read it, and that they also go on to read the more in-depth article, “Pīnyīn Was Plan A”. Please feel free to pass on the information about these articles to any Witness you know who is in or interested in the Mandarin field. (Many of the principles discussed in these articles apply to the Cantonese field as well, which is evidently consolidating on the Sidney Lau system as the romanization system of choice.)

Here is a sample of some of the new content:

Indeed, in our ministry specifically, we definitely need to understand speech and to speak understandably much more than we need to read and write.

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Also, as a Sumerian proverb stated, “a scribe whose hand matches the mouth, he is indeed a scribe”. Pīnyīn can indeed be used to write anything that can be spoken in Modern Standard Mandarin, from the simplest expressions to the most advanced, complex, and deeply meaningful expressions, so it qualifies as a full writing system in that fundamental sense as well.

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But, aren’t characters more meaningful than Pīnyīn? There are certainly meanings and stories behind how certain characters are written, but taken as a bewitchingly complex, independent system for directly representing meanings visually, the characters can actually be a distraction or a diversion from the Mandarin words themselves, which are already a system of representing meanings through Mandarin speech sounds. Really, a Mandarin word still means what it means, no more and no less, whether it is spoken, written in characters, or written in Pīnyīn. Shakespeare said that “a rose by any other name would smell as sweet”, and indeed, a rose would smell as sweet whether the spoken Mandarin word for it is written as “玫瑰” or as “méigui”. Writing the word in characters does not add to its meaning, and writing it in Pīnyīn does not take away from its meaning.

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While those who love traditional Chinese culture may dislike such a radical innovation, it can be said that such innovations are actually a sign of positive, healthy cultural development. Another example of such a radical but positive innovation was the West and China moving from always using Roman numerals and the Chinese characters for numbers to mostly using Arabic numerals. I’m sure most would agree that it’s a very good thing that we no longer have to deal with CMXXXVI÷III or 九百三十六÷三, because we can just work out 936÷3! Pīnyīn brings similar benefits as a writing system for Mandarin.

New Resource: The Article “Pīnyīn is a Good, Workable Writing System On Its Own”

The article “Pīnyīn is a Good, Workable Writing System On Its Own” is now available to be read on 3lines.org. Its contents were taken from the Introductions of recent Pīnyīn web resources, and it should serve as a brief overview of why it’s important for those of us in the Mandarin field to recognize that Pīnyīn is a full writing system, not just a pronunciation aid. (The article “Pīnyīn Was Plan A” provides a more in-depth discussion of how we in the Mandarin field should view Pīnyīn.)

Here is a link to the newly posted article:

• “Pīnyīn is a Good, Workable Writing System On Its Own”
  
  (The login information required is the same as for anywhere else on 3lines.org. If you’re already on the 3lines.org site, you can find this article in the folder Misc ▶ Articles.)

The subject of Pīnyīn and the Chinese characters may be one of the most important subjects I have ever written about, since it deals with facing the most difficult fundamental aspect of the Mandarin language, the language that is the very reason that the Mandarin field exists. This article is a distillation of months of research and analysis regarding this subject, and of decades of experience in learning and teaching Mandarin in the Mandarin field. I highly recommend that anyone in or interested in the Mandarin field read it, and that they also go on to read the more in-depth article, “Pīnyīn Was Plan A”. Please feel free to pass on the information about these articles to any Witness you know who is in or interested in the Mandarin field. (Many of the principles discussed in these articles apply to the Cantonese field as well, which is evidently consolidating on the Sidney Lau system as the romanization system of choice.)

“Pīnyīn Was Plan A” Article Revised

Some revisions have been made to the article “Pīnyīn Was Plan A”.

(The login information required is the same as for anywhere else on 3lines.org. If you’re already on the 3lines.org site, you can find this article in the folder Misc ▶ Articles.)

One of the changes made is that the quotations now have a light gray background to make it easier to tell them apart from the main text.

Here is an example of a portion of the article that has been rewritten:

Basically, compared to those in the standard program who were just taught Pīnyīn for a couple of months or so purely as a phonetic aid for pronouncing characters, the students who were allowed to use Pīnyīn on its own as a writing system for a couple of years or so not only did significantly better in learning the language and in learning the Chinese characters, they also did significantly better overall academically. This is not surprising to me, since language is needed to learn and progress in any and every other field of learning. As former UN interpreter Wu Wenchao said,

Chinese language is difficult to learn in comparison with alphabetic languages. …Chinese students work very hard and would have to spend two more years [some have said even longer] in learning in order to reach the same level of a Western intellectual. …The difficulty in learning is analogous to long boot-up time in computer terminology, which means system delay in becoming operational.

In view of the above, I can’t help but wonder how well those learning Mandarin for the Mandarin field can do who just keep on using Pīnyīn on its own as a writing system, instead of stopping and moving on to characters after some arbitrary length of time. Since Jehovah’s organization is now providing official Pīnyīn versions of the core publications, and since many unofficial Pīnyīn-containing resources are available as well (as discussed more extensively below), Pīnyīn-using Mandarin field language learners now actually do not have to divert years of additional time to learn the relatively complex Chinese characters. Also, they do not have to put forth additional constant, ongoing effort to remember the Chinese characters they’ve learned, and to learn new ones. (And if they do choose to learn some Chinese characters, they could do so more effectively than they could without the assistance of Pīnyīn.) Mandarin field language learners who just use Pīnyīn on its own as a writing system can focus more on the information being communicated in the publications, that they in turn need to communicate to those in the field, without having to expend so much time and mental effort on language technicalities. Such ones should do significantly better overall in the Mandarin field, just as the Z.T. students mentioned above did significantly better overall academically.

Scripture Links, etc. Updated in “Pīnyīn Was Plan A” Article

The article “Pīnyīn Was Plan A”, which began as a post on the tiandi.info blog, has been updated so that the scripture links point to the new 2013 edition of the New World Translation on the WOL site. Some other tweaks have been made as well:

• “Pīnyīn Was Plan A”
  (The login information required is the same as for anywhere else on 3lines.org. If you’re already on the 3lines.org site, you can find this article in the folder Misc ▶ Articles.)

This article contains the results of much research and analysis about something that is of fundamental importance to our work in the Chinese field, so I encourage you to check out the current version, even if you have checked out the article before.

Part of “Pinyin Was Plan A” tiandi.info Post Added To and Rewritten

Some of the material under the Meanwhile... subheading of the tiandi.info post “Pinyin Was Plan A” has been added to and rewritten.

Here is the current form of the section that was added to and rewritten:

The current reality is that it is good for those in the Chinese field to learn as many Chinese characters as they reasonably can. However, experience has shown that focusing too much on characters can cause one to get bogged down with their multifarious complexities and vagaries—while a picture may be worth a thousand words, it can take a thousand words or more to precisely describe a picture! All these complexities and vagaries can slow one’s progress in mastering other aspects of the language that are actually more important in the Chinese ministry. What other aspects are these? John DeFrancis, the linguist mentioned above, said in his book The Chinese Language: Fact and Fantasy that

Speech is primary, writing secondary

Meaning is ultimately carried in the sound of a language; writing mainly carries meaning not in itself, but because it represents the sound of the spoken word. This primacy of speech is not functionally or culturally poor or limiting, as held by some proponents of Hànzì and their contained meaning. Note what multiple award-winning composer and lyricist Stephen Sondheim (who wrote the lyrics for West Side Story) said about something that, like speech, is made up of sound alone:

Music is the richest of the arts because it’s the most abstract. And it is so filled with emotion.

Yes, speech is made up “only” of sound, but then so is music, which is merely the richest of the arts! Since it is so closely related to something that is the richest of the arts, it should come as no surprise that when it comes to language, “speech is primary”.

That means that understanding and speaking a language are even more important than reading and writing it. Indeed, understanding and speaking are the proper foundation upon which reading and writing must be built, not vice-versa. That is a basic fact about language, and about how Jehovah created us to learn and use language. For example, a baby naturally first learns to understand a few words, then one day it sees its father and says “Dada”. Only later does it learn to read and write the word “father”. A baby who writes out “father” before it ever said “Dada” would be most unusual!

Also, Jehovah built right into us the specialized equipment we need to directly produce speech, but we can only produce writing indirectly through the general purpose tools that are our hands, which generally must do so using man-made tools and media such as pens and keyboards and paper and computer screens. So, Jehovah himself supports that “speech is primary, writing secondary” in the very way he designed our bodies.

In our ministry specifically, we definitely need understanding and speaking much more than we need reading and writing, as important as they are. For example, a Japanese sister once explained to me that since Japanese writing uses many Chinese characters, Japanese people can often understand the meanings of Chinese characters that they read. However, the pronunciations of those characters are different in Japanese. So, before a Japanese publisher can be effective in the Chinese ministry, he must still first learn how to understand and speak Chinese—knowing the meanings of the characters is not enough. Think about it: When witnessing, what good is it for you to know the meanings of the characters in a scripture if you can’t

• introduce it,

• pronounce the words in it correctly when reading it out,

• explain it understandably,

• understand the student’s questions,

• or answer the student’s questions effectively?

Conversely, we can often give a good witness just by understanding and speaking Chinese, even if the opportunity does not arise to read or write any Chinese while doing so.

In view of the above, it may be good to keep in mind the counsel in the January 15, 2011 Watchtower:

Jehovah’s Word urges us to “make sure of the more important things.” (Phil. 1:10) Likening the Christian life course to a long-distance footrace, under inspiration the apostle Paul recommended: “Let us also put off every weight . . . , and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us.” (Heb. 12:1) His point was that we must avoid needless pursuits, needless weights, that will tire us out. It may be that some of us are simply trying to squeeze too much into already busy lives. . . . Reasonableness and modesty should move all of us to recognize our limitations and keep unnecessary commitments to a minimum.

Yes, overemphasis on Chinese characters can be a burden that weighs us down rather than helping our progress in learning and using Chinese. And as the above counsel from The Watchtower emphasizes, we really do need to avoid things that weigh us down on the long-distance marathon of our Christian lives, let alone our long-term efforts to learn Chinese. Yes, to us it is indeed a significantly bad thing that Chinese characters are as hard to learn and remember as they are.

As it says in the recently posted update:

I have just rewritten some of the material under the Meanwhile… subheading of this post. Also, recently, I added Pinyin with tone marks for the Chinese names that were previously written only in English, without tone marks.

I continue to believe that the subject of this post is one of primary importance to those of us who are learning Mandarin for the Mandarin field, and I will likely continue to add to and tweak this post in the future.

I highly recommend coming back and rereading this post once in a while, both to catch any recent additions and tweaks, and also just to refresh your memory about this subject that is of primary importance in our language field.

Again, here is the link to the entire post:

“Pinyin Was Plan A”

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3-Line Material on the iPad Page Updated

The 3-Line Material on the iPad information page has been updated with references to the new iPads that were announced today by Apple, including the iPad mini.

“Pinyin Was Plan A” tiandi.info Post Substantially Rewritten

The tiandi.info post “Pinyin Was Plan A” has been substantially rewritten. As it says in the recently posted update:

Since this post was originally posted back in January, I have been continuing to research and analyze this subject, since it is of such primary importance in the Chinese field. As one result of this ongoing research and analysis, this post has been substantially rewritten and updated, and a significant amount of material has been added to it. I highly recommend reading it in its current form even if you have already read the original post.

Especially noteworthy is the inclusion of examples cited by Zhou Youguang, who led the team that created pinyin, of Mandarin homophones that have had their pronunciations changed, thus resolving the potential confusion that could be caused by their previously identical pronunciations. This is some of the material added that shows that it is not correct to think that the number of homophones currently in Mandarin is a good reason not to use pinyin.

Also added is information about digraphia, such as the following:

Modern-day pinyin advocates generally see [pinyin totally replacing characters] as unrealistic, or at least very far off, and many of them, such as Victor H. Mair, do not call for that. However, many of them do call for pinyin to be accepted, not just as a pronunciation aid for the characters, but as the full-fledged script (writing system) for Mandarin in its own right that it linguistically qualifies as, and they call for pinyin to be taught, learned, and used as such a full-fledged script (writing system) in parallel with and with more or less the same status as the characters in a scenario known as digraphia (双文制 (shuāngwénzhì, “two-script system”).

The subject of pinyin and the Chinese characters may be one of the most important subjects I will ever write about on tiandi.info, since it deals with facing the most difficult fundamental aspect of the Chinese language, the language that is the reason the Chinese field exists. This rewritten post contains much of the fruitage of months of research and analysis regarding this subject, and I highly recommend that anyone in or interested in the Chinese field read it. Please feel free to pass on the information about this post to any Witness you know who fits that description.

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3-Line Material on the iPad Page Created

The new 3-Line Material on the iPad information page is now available. It lists reasons why it is advantageous in general to use the 3-line, etc. files in their native electronic format, rather than always just printing them out on paper. It also discusses why the iPad in particular is a very good device to view and use 3-line material on, and it contains many specific tips on how to use 3-line, etc. files on the iPad.

3-Line Material on the iPhone and the iPod touch Page Significantly Updated

The 3-Line Material on the iPhone and the iPod touch page has been significantly updated. It now lists reasons why it is advantageous in general to use the 3-line, etc. files in their native electronic format, rather than always just printing them out on paper. It also discusses why it is desirable to be able to view and use 3-line material on the iPhone and the iPod touch specifically, and it contains many specific tips on how to use 3-line, etc. files on these devices.

How to Download the PDF Files on an iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad

Instructions have been added to various download pages re how to download the PDF files on an iPhone or an iPod touch using GoodReader for iPhone, and how to download the files on an iPad using GoodReader for iPad. These instructions will be added to more of the download pages as time allows.

3-Line Material on the iPhone and the iPod touch Page Updated

The 3-Line Material on the iPhone and the iPod touch page has been updated. It now has a new section entitled Downloading Files.

Standard Mandarin 2 Released

Standard Mandarin is a computer program created by Br. Joel Hansen that helps people to learn Mandarin pronunciation. The Links file has included a link for Standard Mandarin for a long time, and now a new version, version 2, is available. So, this updated description for Standard Mandarin will appear in the next update to the Links file:

http://www.standardmandarin.dk/

The official home of Standard Mandarin, a Windows / Mac OS X program with audio, visual, and text aids to help with pronunciation. Be sure to fill out the form on the website for requesting a download link, and mention that you learned about the site from this Links file so that you will be emailed a link for a free download.

Note that Standard Mandarin is now at version 2.x.

More information on Standard Mandarin can be found at http://www.standardmandarin.com/. However, make sure you go to http://www.standardmandarin.dk/ to fill out a form to request a link for a free download, mentioning that you learned about the site from the Links file, as mentioned above.

Steve Jobs 1955-2011

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He helped us in the Chinese field too, in many insanely great ways.

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“Coasting on Baby-Talk Chinese”

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Gūgu gàga? Let us grow up and learn to ride our “bicycles” well instead!

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“It’s Only a Paper Moon”

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...but spirit and truth are not just paper tigers.

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“iPads Are Magnets For Chinese People”

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Well, in the Chinese field, we should go to where the Chinese people are, right?

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